Breaking the Illusions of Business, Identity & Reality with Justin Breen

May 22, 2026

 

Please enjoy this transcript of the Crown Yourself Podcast, with visionary entrepreneur, bestselling author, and consciousness disruptor, Justin Breen and, your host, transformational story coach, Kimberly Spencer (@Kimberly.Spencer)

Justin Breen is a bestselling author, visionary entrepreneur, and consciousness thought leader exploring the intersection of sovereign leadership, emotional healing, AI, spirituality, and human potential. As the author of Epic Life and Epic Journey, Justin challenges conventional ideas around success, identity, and business, guiding leaders to break free from societal conditioning and lead from deeper truth, intuition, and heart-centered awareness. 

What if the life you’ve been trying so hard to build was designed inside a system that was never meant to free you?

In this mind-expanding episode of the Crown Yourself podcast, Kimberly Spencer sits down with visionary entrepreneur, bestselling author, and consciousness disruptor Justin Breen for a conversation that dismantles everything you thought you knew about business, identity, relationships, leadership, AI, and reality itself.

From the hidden meanings behind words like “business,” “family,” and “occupation” to the emotional constructs shaping society, this episode explores what happens when you stop operating from conditioning and start leading from truth.

Together, Kimberly and Justin dive into:

  • Sovereign leadership and ego dissolution
  • The rise of divine feminine consciousness
  • AI, creativity, and the future of humanity
  • Twin flames, shadow work, and heart-centered awakening
  • How unhealed wounds shape business, relationships, and success
  • Why most people are trapped in performative identity instead of authentic embodiment

This is not surface-level entrepreneurship advice.

This is a deep conversation about consciousness, personal power, emotional healing, manifestation, and what it truly means to live an epic life beyond societal constructs.

If you’ve ever felt like traditional success still left you empty… or sensed there’s a deeper reality beneath the systems we’ve inherited… this episode will stretch your mind, crack open your heart, and challenge everything you thought was real.

Because sovereign leadership begins where illusion ends.

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Breaking the Illusions of Business, Identity & Reality

Sovereign Leadership, Consciousness & the Future of Humanity with Justin Breen

Crown Yourself Podcast Episode #310

By Kimberly Spencer

What If Everything You’ve Been Taught About Success Was an Illusion?

What if the systems you’ve been desperately trying to succeed inside of… were never actually designed to set you free?

In this deeply philosophical and transformational episode of the Crown Yourself podcast, Kimberly Spencer sits down with visionary entrepreneur, bestselling author, and consciousness disruptor Justin Breen to unpack the hidden constructs shaping business, identity, relationships, AI, consciousness, leadership, and reality itself.

This conversation explores:

  • Sovereign leadership
  • Shadow work and ego dissolution
  • AI and consciousness
  • Divine feminine leadership
  • Emotional healing
  • Human design
  • Twin flames and karmic relationships
  • Conscious parenting
  • The collapse of societal conditioning

This is not surface-level business strategy.

This is a dismantling of the emotional and psychological systems most people unconsciously live inside every day.

[00:00] Breaking the Illusions of Business, Identity & Reality

What Happens When You Stop Playing Inside the Construct?

Kimberly Spencer (host):

What if everything you've been taught about success, business, and even reality itself was built on constructs that were never meant to set you free?

What if the systems that you've been so desperately trying to succeed inside of were actually never designed for you in the first place?

If you've ever felt like you didn't quite fit into the traditional business model, or questioned the narratives around success, or achieved remarkable success and once you got to the top wondered, “Is this it?” — this conversation is going to stretch you.

Our question today for this episode is:
What happens when you stop playing inside the constructs of business, identity, and success that you've been told are the things you need to be doing… and instead step into a completely different way of being to live your full, epic life?

True leadership doesn't just come from mastering one system. It comes from seeing through it.

And when you begin to dissolve the illusions you've been operating inside of, you don't just change your strategy — you actually change your entire reality.

[03:00] Justin Breen on the Human Constructs We’ve Been Conditioned to Accept

Business, Family & Social Conditioning

Kimberly Spencer (host):

What human constructs have been the most difficult for you to dismantle?

Justin Breen (guest):

There’s so many.

Business comes from the Latin word business, which means anxiety.

Scale comes from a French Latin word meaning dull and dirty.

Religion comes from religio, which means to bind.

The most difficult one is family. That comes from the Latin word familia, which means a member of a household servant.

So family was created as a slave system for women and children for men.

And there are exceptions to that, obviously, but when you really look at most family dynamics, that’s kind of what it is.

[06:00] Why Most Leaders Run From Their Shadow

Shadow Work, Ego Dissolution & Conscious Leadership

Justin Breen (guest):

Most of the world runs away from their own shadow.

Carl Jung talked about that.

People don’t want to really look into themselves.

I’ve done a lot of shadow work.

A lot.

And what you have in leadership is people running away from their own shadows and projecting that shadow negativity onto society.

I’d rather look into myself, heal my own heart, create things that help heal my own heart, and then hopefully help heal other people’s hearts.

That’s really the only way to do it.

Otherwise, we continue having what’s happening in society right now.

[09:00] Following Your Heart Instead of Logic

Why Sovereign Leadership Requires Courage

Kimberly Spencer (host):

How did you cultivate that discernment?

Justin Breen (guest):

Most of society doesn’t live like that.

Doctor David Hawkins’ Scale of Consciousness talks about how most people never even reach courage.

And courage comes from the Latin word cor, which means heart.

So below courage you have fear, grief, shame, apathy.

Most people are living there.

I’ve learned that logic only goes so far.

After that, the only logic is illogic and love.

We have a society building masks.

And mask comes from a word meaning fool.

So we have a society building masks instead of following heart and intuition.

[12:00] Why Being Fully Seen Feels Unsafe

The Emotional Masks Leaders Hide Behind

Kimberly Spencer (host):

So many people are desperately trying to strip away the mask.

But one of the deepest fears is being fully seen.

Justin Breen (guest):

Very unsafe.

That’s why it takes a select few people to actually do it.

Regardless of whether society is ready for it.

[15:00] Conscious Parenting & Raising Unconditioned Children

“School Is a Prison”

Justin Breen (guest):

My 13-year-old told me:
“Dad, school is a prison.”

And I said:
“You’re right.”

You have bells.
You move room to room.
You have designated eating times.

That’s what it is.

Most people would just say:
“Don’t worry about it. Just do what you’re told.”

But I want my children to see through systems while still being able to navigate them.

That’s my role as a father.

[18:00] Divine Feminine Leadership & the Collapse of Old Systems

Why Humanity Is Experiencing a Massive Awakening

Kimberly Spencer (host):

We’re living in one of the most interesting times in human history because so many constructs are literally crumbling in front of us.

Justin Breen (guest):

That’s what the book is about.

The rise of divine feminine leadership:
Creativity.
Love.
Harmony.

In the last 200–300 years, only one war has been started primarily by women.

Every other war was started primarily by men.

We are watching old paradigms collapse in real time.

[24:00] Human Design, Intuition & Manifestor Energy

Why Some People Are Meant to Disrupt the System

Justin Breen (guest):

Manifestors have naturally repelling energy.

They are not designed to give energy to everyone.

If they did, they’d self-destruct.

Manifestors are here to say how they feel no matter what — to create peace.

And it’s saying things you feel are true at a soul level, regardless of whether people are ready for them.

[29:00] Conscious Business Growth Without Losing Your Soul

Entrepreneurs, Burnout & Healing the Heart

Kimberly Spencer (host):

How do entrepreneurs ensure they’re building from a worthy ideal and not just anxiety?

Justin Breen (guest):

Anyone who keeps chasing more and more without healing their own heart… they’re not actually happy.

I’ve talked to thousands of people.

The answer is:
Look within.

Meditation.
Counseling.
Plant medicine.
Creativity.
Music.
Writing.

Whatever helps heal your own heart.

Because what’s happening in society is really just a giant world of unhealed hearts.

[32:00] AI, Creativity & Human Consciousness

Technology as a Collaborator — Not a Replacement

Kimberly Spencer (host):

How do we navigate this intersection with AI where our creativity and intellect are being outsourced?

Justin Breen (guest):

I look at AI as a collaborator.

Writing songs with AI has actually helped heal my own heart.

But AI can also be extremely dangerous because it becomes a sycophant — constantly agreeing with people and reinforcing delusion.

Social media already isolated humanity emotionally.

Now we’re at a turning point where we get to decide:
Will technology deepen disconnection?
Or deepen consciousness?

[35:00] The Fourth Turning & Humanity’s Awakening

Crisis Before Conscious Evolution

Justin Breen (guest):

Every 80–85 years, America experiences some form of massive crisis.

The Revolutionary War.
The Civil War.
World War II.

And now.

We are in another crisis moment.

But after crisis comes awakening.

That’s where humanity is headed.

[42:00] Karmic Relationships, Twin Flames & Emotional Healing

Love, Ego & Soul Evolution

Kimberly Spencer (host):

What’s the difference between love, lust, and egoic attachment?

Justin Breen (guest):

I’ll probably spend the rest of my life trying to figure that out.

But what I do know is:
Twin flame relationships force you inward.

They trigger spiritual awakening.
Dark nights of the soul.
Ego dissolution.

Most people run from that level of vulnerability.

[45:00] Rapid-Fire Q&A — Twin Flames, Soulmates & Conscious Relationships

Justin Breen on Love, Consciousness & Human Evolution

🔥 What’s the difference between a soulmate and a twin flame?

Justin Breen (guest):

A soulmate is more of a 3D partnership — someone you build life with.

A twin flame is your soul mirror.

It forces you to confront yourself at the deepest level.

It’s often the most painful experience of your life… but also the most awakening.

🔥 What happens in a twin flame relationship?

Justin Breen (guest):

It creates ego dissolution.

It cracks you open emotionally and spiritually.

It forces consciousness evolution.

🔥 Why do most people struggle with unconditional love?

Justin Breen (guest):

Because most people have unhealed hearts.

And unhealed people project pain instead of intimacy.

🔥 What’s the greatest medicine for humanity?

Justin Breen (guest):

Cracking your heart open.

🔥 What’s one thing leaders need to stop doing?

Justin Breen (guest):

Performing success.

[52:00] Cracking Your Heart Open

The Medicine Humanity Actually Needs

Kimberly Spencer (host):

I think that’s the medicine for the world.

If we’d just crack open our hearts a bit more.

Justin Breen (guest):

That’s the only medicine.

[57:00] Awakening, Consciousness & Positive Disintegration

The Butterfly Metaphor of Transformation

Kimberly Spencer (host):

Awakenings are not glamorous.

They require surrender.
Stripping away conditioning.
Letting old identities dissolve.

Justin Breen (guest):

Like a caterpillar inside a chrysalis.

Before it becomes a butterfly, it melts completely.

That’s what transformation is.

Positive disintegration.

[1:05:00] What Does It Mean to Crown Yourself?

Justin Breen’s Final Answer

Kimberly Spencer (host):

What does it mean to crown yourself?

Justin Breen (guest):

If you love somebody…
tell them.

Final Takeaways From Justin Breen

Breaking the Illusions of Business, Identity & Reality

Key Themes From This Episode:

  • Business systems often condition anxiety, not freedom
  • Most leadership problems stem from unhealed shadows
  • Conscious leadership requires emotional honesty
  • AI can either amplify creativity or deepen disconnection
  • Sovereign leadership begins when you stop performing
  • Healing your heart changes how you lead, love, parent, and create
  • Humanity is currently moving through a massive awakening
  • The future belongs to leaders who balance consciousness with creation

Closing Thoughts

Kimberly Spencer (host):

Go out there.
Own your throne.
Mind your business because your reign is now.

And remember:
Create a body, business, and life that rules.

Because today…
you Crown Yourself.

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