From TV to Pole Dancing: Joanne Getson's Inspiring Journey of Finding Passion and Purpose

crown yourself podcast Oct 18, 2023


Please enjoy this transcript of the Crown Yourself Podcast, with Joanne Getson and, your host, transformational story coach, Kimberly Spencer (@Kimberly.Spencer)

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In this episode of the Crown Yourself podcast, host Kimberly Spencer interviews Joanne Getson, a former entertainment industry professional who has transitioned into the fitness and pole dancing industry. They discuss Joanne's journey, the skills she's gained from improvisational comedy, and how she uses the "yes and" mindset to navigate challenges. Joanne also shares her experience of building her own business, the importance of aligning with personal values, and the significance of hobbies outside work. They touch on time management, team leadership, and the role of fun in the workplace. Joanne also shares her admiration for author Colette and her great-grandmother's pioneering spirit.

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Kimberly Spencer (00:00:00) - Hello my fellow sovereigns, and welcome back to another episode of the Crown Yourself podcast. This episode I know I say every episode excites me, but this episode in particular, because I have had the pleasure of working with Joanne Getson over the course of the past six months. Joanne comes from the world of the entertainment industry, which, as you know, has been rocked these past few months with the SAG, strikes with the writers, strikes, with all of the challenges and changes that are being introduced with AI. And come January of this past year, Joanne pivoted her entire career leveraging her skill set from unscripted TV and scripted production, including shows such as Mob Wives, and Southern Charm and movies like The Wrestler into a powerful business that is now leveraging the things that she does best with video and marketing strategies, and developing products and programs for business owners who want to augment their current brand, mission and revenue by expanding the storytelling capacity of their business through video. In this episode, a few of my favorite things that you are absolutely going to grab onto and I want you to really listen for, is the skill set that improvisational comedy actually provided.


Kimberly Spencer (00:01:29) - Joanne, in being able to create and leverage this massive pivot from employee to entrepreneur, as well as her drive and value for staying curious, and how she aligned her values personally to create the solution and fill the niche that was needing her exact skill set. And if you're currently in an industry that's being radically disrupted by AI and basically that's all of them, then I encourage you to look at this interview and listen to how can you leverage the skill set tools, and resources that you have to create a new path to pioneer a new way forward into this new era that we all are entering? And with that, I give you Joanne Jetson, welcome to the Crown Yourself podcast, where together we build your empire and transform your subconscious stories about what's possible for your business, body, and life. I'm your host, Kimberly Spencer, founder of Crown Yourself. Com and I'm a master mindset coach, best-selling author, and TEDx speaker known to my clients as a game changer. Each week you get the conscious leadership strategies you need to help you reign with courage, clarity, and confidence so that you too, can make the income and impact you deserve.


Kimberly Spencer (00:02:52) - Imagine this podcast as your royal invitation to step into your full potential and reign in your divine purpose. Your sovereignty starts here and your reign is now. Joanne, I am so excited to have you on the Crown Yourself podcast. Welcome. Thank you. Excited to be here. This is my first podcast. The first is so do you know the last person who was a first podcaster? They went on to build a $30 million empire. So. All right, I will take I will take those odds. So tell us a little bit about your journey, because, I mean, you come from a deep dive background in television, but now you transition through. Oh, yeah. Heather. And it's been doing something completely different. And yet the skill set still translates. Oh, yeah. Well, it's I have been on television for over 15 years. I went to film school and then worked in New York and then in Los Angeles on all kinds of productions. And yeah, I've seen it all.


Kimberly Spencer (00:04:02) - And this year was quite a year of transition. You know, I had some loss and just decided, okay, it's time to do something else and work with you. And then we brainstormed some things, you know, that were in my passion. And, you know, industries that are more in line with what I love to do and values and then started to realize that, okay, what I really love is fitness and pole dancing and particular pole fitness, and how can I build a business from that? And one thing led to another. Right now I am building a platform, video on demand, and a streaming platform for Legendary Studio in Las Vegas. And it's been pretty amazing to realize that everything I've been working on on the last, working on all the skills I've learned in the last 15 years, are transferable to something that's more in line with what I love to do. And yeah, I'm on a different path right now. Building something new. And that's your skillset though, like, that's always been your thing is you've I mean, you were you worked in TV, but if you've never worked in entertainment then there are different stages to production.


Kimberly Spencer (00:05:14) - And you were particularly skilled at like building the things of in development and production pieces and you've done it all. But how did you come upon that, that skill set, that is a thing that you love, that is building something new? Where did that come from? I don't know, I think I've always been the person who likes to build something from scratch. If it's what I'm doing at work or if I'm doing something around my house, I like having a problem and then building and finding a solution, and then building it and thinking outside of the box. And I like exploring new worlds, I like traveling, I like asking questions. I like trying things that I've never tried before just because, okay, that's something new and something I'm afraid of. I'm going to give that a shot. I mean, maybe it's a sense of adventure, but this idea of trying something new, you know what? What else is out there and asking questions and just being curious? I've always been that way, and I will always be that way, I hope, and I think when you can be curious, it leads to new things.


Kimberly Spencer (00:06:19) - It leads to new experiences, and it opens up a whole new world. If you just ask, okay, what else is there? Just keep poking at it. And I think that that's like one of the things that I love about your mindset that has just been such a catalyst for your very quick success to like flip from being used to being an employee into an entrepreneur is you have such coach ability because you're curious and you're willing to ask the question and you're willing to go there. And that curiosity is something. Did you find that you had that in childhood that you would just deconstruct or get curious, or who taught you that? Oh, wow. You know what, my dad had this quote, and he would always tell us. He'd always ask us when we were afraid of something or if we were going to try something new. We weren't sure if we were good at it, or if we were going to go down the ski slope. That was a little bit too challenging for us. He would tell us or he would ask us.


Kimberly Spencer (00:07:24) - He said, what's the worst that could happen? And that stuck with me, that, okay, you maybe want to try this thing? Um, okay, you have the skills. It's not like you're just, you know, diving off the back of a boat into shark-infested waters. What's the worst that can happen? You know, what do you need to do to get there? But is your fear valid? Or can you do things to prepare for that fear but give it a shot? More than anything, I think that an important thing that I've always carried with me in life is that anytime I'm about to try something new. When I see some adversity I think of that is what is the worst that could happen. And usually, it's not as scary as it was initially. Think about that. You know, I actually think it is. It's something that you can break down into pieces and then compartmentalize a little bit. What was the biggest aha that you, you found throughout our coaching journey together? It's that there are more possibilities out there.


Kimberly Spencer (00:08:31) - I think. If you're in any industry. For as long as I've been, I think it's really easy to get some tunnel vision on what the trajectory is. What's next? How is the industry changing? Where do you fit into that? How do you fit into that? And then where do you go from there? And I think the same kind of if there's a moment where you can ask or if there's a moment where you can step back and say, what else is there? There's a lot more possibility out there than what you immediately think there. There is. It's taking that leap, but it's also looking at what I think was really helpful to look at what I've done what I've built, and what I enjoyed working in television. And those skills are definitely transferable, but it's just the suggestion that there are more options out there. Yeah. And that power of the power of possibility. I know when I shifted from when I had, like my moment, as I thought like, oh, I had the first film that I co-wrote with the director like produced, distributed, and like I was there, I was at the premiere and, you know, red carpet and all that.


Kimberly Spencer (00:09:47) - And we just found out that I got picked up by Lionsgate and was going to be on Netflix. And I was like, in that moment, I was like, I shouldn't be 100% fulfilled, but I'm not. And that moment of recognizing, okay, where is a skill transferable? Like what is what really is a skill that I had, like as a writer. And the fact that I can see people's stories and that training as a writer and an actor and in improv, which I know you've done as well, which I want to ask about, like, like that ability to be adaptable in the scene and flexible. So it's such a cornerstone and it allows you to pivot industries. It doesn't just allow you to pivot in a scene where you're like doing what? What was it called shape works things out of where you're like, can something you're holding a cup of the dark object? Yeah. Coffee. I always sucked at that. Correctly so. But it was the catalyst of improv of being able to take a risk.


Kimberly Spencer (00:10:54) - And so how has improv really trained you as a leader? I have fully embraced it. I love the idea of yes and. And even when you hear when people are we are in a creative environment. You want to encourage brainstorming and build on ideas. And not every idea is going to be a game changer. But it's important to foster creativity. And it's important, really important to foster teamwork. And I think nothing does that better than improv, because this idea that every idea or every suggestion is a gift. And in improv, they actually call it a gift and you build onto it. It doesn't mean you have to accept it like that's it. But that gift and that idea exist. And what do you do with that? And how does that acceptance of a gift or an idea lead? Yes. And okay, so we've got this thing. How do you build on to that with the next thing? And you can end up with something totally different. And there's a lot of beauty in that idea.


Kimberly Spencer (00:12:03) - I mean, I am trying to use that. In professional life, in my personal life, and then what I'm building, and just life in general. That. Yes. And on particularly to suggestions that you don't like immediately. What is this thing that you're given? And then what do you do with it after this? I don't know, maybe it doesn't work, but you have to accept that that thing was given to you and then build from it. Yeah. And it's I love the concept of. Yes. And I actually think if we were to go full-on esoteric that it is it is the basis of manifestation. And the basis is like most, most spirituality, quite frankly, is like the manifestation of creating something from nothing that that that idea is a gift and it's the acceptance of it that then, as you said, build off of and you faced a ton of challenges during our time together. How did you? Yes. And those. Well, I lost my dad earlier this year and I had some setbacks professionally too.


Kimberly Spencer (00:13:17) - And I actually picked up meditation because it was an A12 punch for me. And I started meditating and I found my tree meditation, which really embraces this idea of, well, what if I took from is like, I'm given this thing and I don't know what it is, and it's awful, but it exists. And then what you do with that, that something beautiful can happen to it. And sometimes it's just accepting that it's there. And you know, it's that was helpful and I think. I have found many times in my life that when bad things happen, unexpected things can come from it. Can have meaning, and it's not always that they're good. And it's not that it's always going to be better, but there's there there are possibilities out there. If you accept that there's a break-in, that there's an end to something if you also open up to other opportunities. I don't know. I don't want to sound like it's always easy and things are, you know, happy-go-lucky all the time because I don't think that's true.


Kimberly Spencer (00:14:31) - But I do think there's something that can happen when there's when you're faced with the challenge, if it's that yes end or if it's, you know, just seeing, okay, this exists. Now what do I do with that? Yeah, yeah, that the sand really stems from one of my favorite questions that I'm pretty sure I asked you when we were coaching together was the question of, how is this the best thing that ever happened to you? And honestly, like in certain situations, like this is an asshole question to ask. And at the same time, like when we look for the silver linings, we look for the positive. When we look for how can we shape the meaning of this experience? As sucky as this experience is, how can we shape the meaning for ourselves to really direct us in the way that we want it to go, to guide us so that it doesn't consume us and that we don't get depleted, but that we're able to find that positive forward motion that, that that's that's the job of coaches is to keep forward, focused on the vision and the vision beyond the current circumstances.


Kimberly Spencer (00:15:42) - And you did such a beautiful life pivot and such a quick time, quite frankly, like to be able to to work with one of the major pole dancers in her field into doing something that you absolutely love. And so what is the skill set that you were so easily able to transfer over? Oh, so many things. It was not just with this platform that I was building for the fitness studio. It's a lot of development. You know what Fournier wanted to do was go online, take her classes, and go online so that people could access the studio in some way. It would be for current students. Also, people have left the studio, and those who just know her the in the world. And then what would that look like? So. Working with her. You know, I guess what I brought was just asking, what do you want to me? You know, just asking a lot of questions, which is something that I do like to do when I'm trying to understand a world more is what do you want? What do you envision? What do you who do you want to use this platform? How do you want people to use it and then research it?


Kimberly Spencer (00:16:58) - Then I just went back and I researched what else was out there. Who else has a platform? What is her competition like? And then how do we build something that represents what that studio is that was very authentic to the community, to the current students? It represented what that brand is and also what it could be and how it, could grow. So I think those are the skills I brought to her. Yeah, I think one of the things is the curiosity that like, I mean, you coming from your background in reality TV and docu-series, like you constantly use this phrase when we're working together called understanding a World. So give me some idea of what it means to understand the world. How did you, as a reality producer, go about understanding the world? Because I actually think that for the coaches and authors and CEOs listening to this podcast, I think you're actually going to give them some deeper perspective because you don't come from that industry. And that can definitely be applied and applicable, to their work.


Kimberly Spencer (00:18:08) - Yeah. Um, it is so fun to get tossed into a world. And if it's a business or a place or a foreign location and just trying to figure out what's going on. Um, it's just observing and asking a lot of questions and seeing, you know, being observant. You know, each business does something different. Each city has its own vibe, its own language, and it's noticing what those differences are. Um, I think there's something that when you pull up to a, you know when I first pulled up to a local fitness studio, I knew a friend. I had a friend who took classes there. So we talked a little bit about what that was like. But I pulled up to the class and you get all these opinions on what's inside and who takes classes and, you know, it's in Vegas, so it's going to have a certain flair to it. And you really have to let that go and just kind of see what's actually going on. Because what's presented and what's what's there are two different things.


Kimberly Spencer (00:19:14) - So the longer you can sit with something and just talk to students or teachers to get their opinion on things or, you know, developing reality shows, just listening, asking questions, getting a lay of the land before making any judgments, I think is the most important thing. And then take some time to let that sit and to decipher, okay, these are some patterns that I'm seeing over time. Or these are some, some phrases, and this is what the world is. I think those are the best ways to keep it authentic and also kind of identify what the problems are with challenges is, are because, you know, really in television what you're looking for are those challenges. You want those dramatic moments in those stories so it doesn't appear right away. And that takes a little while for it to reveal itself. And the longer you can just see what. Be observant, ask the right questions, you'll see where the problems are. And you know what? What's at stake? Um, and that's true for any industry or for any leader just to explore what, you know, maybe what needs to happen or just listen, sit and listen, I think is huge.


Kimberly Spencer (00:20:30) - So what are the right questions? Said the right questions. So like given some examples that you use when you're, you're working on on on location when you were in reality. Oh well, here I'm going to give you the typical answer because it depends. Anything on television depends. But because. Oh, that's so tough. It's not a cut-and-dry answer. Really? It's. I'd like to see it. I'm always curious. You know who's in? Who's in charge? You know who makes a decision, who influences them. You know who has a lot of sway in a leader's mind. I think that's important. Maybe lingo. You know what? What the process is, that kind of thing I'm interested in. And also who are some of the regulars. But, you know, it depends. It's everything's different. Everything. Each industry is so dead. Yeah. And yet I can see how those intermedia and the pattern like did you see all the cross patterns? And I'm like what you just described.


Kimberly Spencer (00:21:40) - I hope that every coach listening was taking notes because those questions are like when you're thinking of coaching a leader, you do want to know who's influencing them, who's in their sphere of influence, whether it's their family or their partner or their relationships or their kids. Like who's impacting the way that they make decisions? How do they make decisions? And who is like, what are the roles of every other person who's who's a supporting cast in their life? And when you and then when you see that, it really provides a backdrop to understand the challenges that the person is facing. And yes, in while you go for like, let's get the let's get that moment in coaching, we're like, let's go for the breakthrough. So we don't necessarily want to let them play on through, but go for the breakthrough of finding like, okay, let's break through the pattern instead of incentivizing drama around it, but that those questions are so transferable for every leader to be able to better understand. If you're going to be doing business with a partner or you're coaching a leader or a CEO, understanding that sphere of influence is essential and apparently even on docuseries and unscripted series.


Kimberly Spencer (00:22:56) - So, yeah, you mean like at the table flipping and coaching, but ideally not no, you not. But it exists in its own way. You know, there's going to be a table flip in their own way. So I know that you never worked with a coach before. Yeah. What was that incentive to tip you over the edge to, like, looking for coaching, looking for guidance? Looking for support. What we're looking for. You know, it was I was starting to feel like I needed to do something different, and I was having a lot of challenges, and what it was, was working. And, you know, I was just thinking, like, what's next? What am I going to do? Where do I grow from here? And it was a good time to start thinking about it. What else can he know? What else they can do? But like, what's next for me? And how do I develop some skills to get to the next phase of whatever that is? I did not think I was going to transition in a way that I'm building my own thing I have.


Kimberly Spencer (00:24:11) - I just that was not I think you literally told me, like, I don't know if I want to build my own thing. Yeah, yeah. I just didn't think I had it in me. But I do. And that surprised me. But I think the, the, the impetus of it really was thinking about what, what's next for me because I was a little stuck. You know, it's like you get this tunnel vision and what, what you've done, what you should be doing, what's the next phase. And there's more to that. And it was so helpful to work with you and to explore other ideas outside of, different industries and things that are more and more passionate about, but things that are more aligned with some outside interest. Yeah. And I think a big piece was valued. Yeah. That's yeah, that was key. I actually have from when we worked on my values, I have them teeth up in front of my desk and I look at them every morning and I rearrange them every week depending on what I'm doing.


Kimberly Spencer (00:25:13) - And I put them in a different order depending on what that week is. I think the values are key and they'll change and they take on different meanings. But I think reminding myself of what's important to me that I want to build and I want to be remembered for, that's been that's so important. Yeah. Yeah. And values. If you've never done any deep values work, it's like, you know, because we can be very people can sometimes be very glib about their values of like, oh, these are the corporate values that we sound like. But unless there's any frame of reference or context or meaning behind it, it's like, okay, great, that's what you stand for. But are you actually living that? And when you can look at the values from like, how do you actually live? Like what actually what actually pisses you off? And what actually do you do you love what actually like really incentivizes you, motivates you internally. It's not that you lose motivation, people lose focus.


Kimberly Spencer (00:26:15) - And when you can look at that through that lens, then that's where you start to get a little bit of clarity on what are those values that actually moving. Because your values are a subconscious processing system. There's a filter that you make decisions through. And if certain things and external circumstances or jobs or industries that you're in are not aligning with those values, there's always going to be conflict. There's always going to be struggle, there's always going to be strife. And it's in a, like in an in that allowance and acceptance. Yes. And of saying, okay, well these are my values and these are what I think the industry or my job or my boss or like whoever is influencing this is what I think their values are, and this is where we're not in alignment, then that can give you clarity. This is not it. It's not a you thing. It's not a them thing. It's a values thing. Yeah, I think you find the values thing so often in corporate culture, but it's not something that people do as an individual.


Kimberly Spencer (00:27:23) - And it's it's important. Like where do you spend your time? How do you spend your time? Who do you spend that time with? That's what's really important to understand and to question. We're so much more than what we do 9 to 5. And if we don't define what those values are, what our values are ourselves, we're going to just accept whatever's given. And then that's, you know, where do you find fulfillment in that? It's important to understand what's what's important to to yourself and value that. Any change, you know, the values take different priorities every week, but understanding that and respecting that those are as important as any other influences was a huge lesson that I had to learn. And I'm glad I did. What are you noticing as that common thread of that main value that you just don't really change positions that much? People. People have their own interest in their own personality and they bring their own gifts. You know, everyone brings their has. Priority, different priorities based on their backgrounds or just, you know, their experiences.


Kimberly Spencer (00:28:40) - And I'm. I think it's it's important to respect. Those individual qualities, because that's what makes us unique. And that one makes people people what makes people special, and then also what they bring to a team and to different environments. I guess that's kind of fun. Everybody's different. Yeah. Allowing for that diversity of not just race or gender, but but diversity of thought, and diversity of value structure changes the game. Yeah, I was I had one client that I was working with and he was like, why do I have to have an hour-long conversation with each of my teammates? And I said I pulled them on their values. And I was like, because all of them value significance and contribution, and they want to contribute their, you know, their voice. So they all value the same thing. So there was no diversity of people who could just like, take a plan and execute. They wanted to feel significant in the execution. Yeah. So now that you're on the outside of the entertainment industry, I know we have a lot of listeners in California and Hollywood who are a part of the entertainment industry.


Kimberly Spencer (00:29:56) - Looking on the outside with the skill set that you have of pattern recognition, with the skill set that you have of looking at a world and. Understanding it. How? Now that you're on the outside, what do you see has changed or is different about that world? Oh, yes. You know, it's been really funny being the, on the outside of the entertainment industry because I never fully appreciated how corporate it is. I think it's easy to think, or you get these stars in your eyes when you're starting out about, okay, I can make this thing. I can be creative. And there it's actually not that easy. There's a lot of essential entertainment, therefore, for making money. And there's a lot of power with the corporations in the studios. And that changes things. And it's interesting being on the out and just seeing how things are, how the business is done and just noticing, oh, we're the business decisions are made. It's also been a lot more fun to watch television.


Kimberly Spencer (00:31:09) - I still take apart scenes, I still watch television, and I go to the movies and I like, oh, got to like continuity and stuff, but I think I have questions, but it's I'm eating the popcorn more when I'm watching things now, and it's not so much of a business thinking about how it was made. And, you know, what was the deal that was made, you know, to what deal happen to me, make it get to the air. So it's been a lot more fun to watch TV and film. I've heard that from so many people in entertainment who pivoted, who just were, he agreed. They're like, oh my gosh, like. And I'll look at it without studying it. Yeah, I saw the same when I used to study all the old movies and all the old movie actors for Marlon Brando and James Dean and Audrey Hepburn for like, how were they acting and all that. And once I was out, I was like. Although I can just enjoy a break with the Japanese because it's a good movie, and then I watch it later, like ten years later, and I was like, oh, there are some disturbing topics in this movie that I didn't really pick up on.


Kimberly Spencer (00:32:15) - It's true, it's true. I think I'm eating more popcorn at the movies now than I did before. Yeah. So has the focus pivoted now that you're working with Pole Dancing Studios? So has the focus like now, are you looking at pole dancing and are you enjoying pole dancing as much? Oh, just as much. Um, you know, it's I mean, pole dancing will always be my passion. And taking classes is just as fun, if not more fun than. And then it's ever been. But I'm thinking about anytime I go to a yoga class or I take a spin class, I always think, oh, you know, how would you shoot this? And how can this instructor make more money or, you know, create their own brand and make videos and, and do their own training program because it's so much easier than I think people realize right now. And so my, my head now instead of thinking about movies, my head now is thinking about, okay, how could I watch this at home? How could I take the spin class that I like so much and watch it at home and also do it, you know, five times a week? Or I would keep up a regimen.


Kimberly Spencer (00:33:26) - So yeah, I'm thinking about fitness and being active in a very different way now than I used to. I think what's really interesting is the difference in questions, and the difference in your energy between your energy when you talk about the entertainment industry and oh my gosh, how you lit up like crazy. Well, it's like a Christmas tree. When you were talking about pole dancing and fitness and the perception of, you know, when you're watching TV, you're thinking of like, what are the deals were being made when you were in that industry? But even though you're out of the in a different industry you're now looking at, you still light it up when you're talking about, oh, I'm watching how I could do the classes differently. I'm watching how I could make this better, and how I could build them into a brand. And then the light is turned on. Of an undertone of encouragement and hope that there's something beyond the deal. The room that you can do is what it feels like for me.


Kimberly Spencer (00:34:25) - I've always loved dance. And I love watching dancers. You know, I was a kid, I took ballet class. I was either going to be a ballerina or an astronaut. And because I love how people move, and I think we're all I've learned so much from, from dance, you know, I've learned that. There's everybody moves differently. Um, there's it's really fun to explore how each of your body moves in different shapes. It can be made in different ways or angles. It can make even a dawn dancer, someone who is not flexible at all. I've learned so much from dancing, and I've learned so much from that community, and I've gotten a huge sense of empowerment from the pole dancing community. And I would love to share that with people and not just pull it like any kind of movement that people have been able to find meaning for. I think it's great that people can find meaning and strength besides just physical strength, and mental strength from whatever exercise they're doing. And I would love to share that and help others and studios do that because I know how beneficial it is.


Kimberly Spencer (00:35:48) - I've spent years and years dancing and being frustrated at it. And, um, I think there's a lot that people can learn from doing things outside of work and building those communities off of things that they're interested in. Oh, you spoke to my heart, Joanne, about the power of hobbies and having something outside of your work. And I did a post on this and that actually got a lot of response where I was like, your work is not your hobby. I love coaching and I love writing and speaking and all that. That's not my hobby. I tried wakeboarding the other week and I practiced a shoulder out, but like, I love those athletic endeavors. So like, what are the hobbies that you rediscovered that you had? Did you have time for hobbies when you were in the entertainment industry? It was hard. Those were the things that went first. It was, you know, if you know when you're working in entertainment, it's 24 over seven. You're always on call in some capacity.


Kimberly Spencer (00:36:56) - And those hobbies, those things that are really important that also help you grow and just get that dead. My time, um, it's sad. We have to say goodbye to those and, I regret that I let those things go because I think when it comes to development and also just feeling empowered, those those are the most important things. Those who are like that should be number one in health and being and mental health. And that has to always be key in your life. And it's very easy to let those go. Yeah. And I know that especially when you're in any sort of demanding job, whether it's entertainment or CEO of a Fortune 500 company or just running a small business, feeling like you have to do all the things and be all the spaces. I know when I was when I had my e-commerce company, I was the first to let my health go, like gain weight. My hair was falling out from stress, like I was waking up at 3:00 in the morning with like, sweats to respond to a customer email.


Kimberly Spencer (00:38:03) - It was it was not a pretty sight. And my loving fiance I no husband had the wherewithal to say is it worth it? Fortunately, I was then asked by my business partner only a few short weeks later to to. To leave the company, and he wanted to take it over and run it solo. But I was so like, in hindsight, I'm so grateful that he gave me that out. Otherwise, I would have like, I'm the type where I would fight it to the death. Like I'm like, yes, we'll just we'll go down to the ship. But the fact that he let me go have a lifeboat. Great. Okay, I'll if I go to go to another shore and not sink to the bottom like Titanic. But prioritizing hobbies was a huge transformation piece and prioritising health as as as a priority and as a hobby to do things or physical, active, and fun. That can be those hobbies that you pursue. So what are some of your favorite hobbies that you rediscovered? I mean, pole dancing, obviously pole dancing.


Kimberly Spencer (00:39:18) - I also went back to hiking, which was really fun. And then, you know, part of it is this year's really lucky to go on a backpacking trip. So I really had to focus on, hiking and and training for that. I have not gone back to improv yet. That would have to be the next thing. There's only so much you can do in a day. But I will say that just getting back to pole dancing has just changed my life. There's something about listening to music and moving and being with other people who enjoy that and enjoy that challenge. That just is. That's brought a lot of joy this year. Yeah. And I've seen that joy, like, ripple through you, and your energy has radically transformed. How do you manage your energy now, now that you're running a business and growing it? I. What's the difference? Time management is really important., I've always been very good at keeping a calendar and scheduling meetings, but now I actually block off times.


Kimberly Spencer (00:40:33) - I kind of know what my rhythm is for when I can focus and get things done and what I should take calls and when I can. When it would be better to do more things that need a lot of detail. And so I actually structure my day. It always starts out and I'm really lucky because now I start every day doing some kind of exercise and that's really important. And then I can start my day and, you know, do emails and then but I block off my time and my, my calendar more. And I kind of like a big picture way more than I used to because before it would be okay. Whenever meetings are scheduled, they're scheduled. And now I can make some decisions about when can I. What is my focus better for certain things? And like I try to lean into that as much as I can. What a powerful question and you said the word that is now like the motto that I am beating the drum for currently because I just got back from the Broken Shards coaching summit.


Kimberly Spencer (00:41:37) - Natalie Ellis the founder of Boss Babe spoke at it and she spoke about rhythms. As soon as I got back, my rhythm felt so disrupted because I had a toddler who was crying for me, and then my six-year-old was like, oh mommy, I want to show you this. And I felt constantly like I was like, I'm feeling so upbeat with my rhythm and recognizing how to develop that, that rhythm and that rhythm as a team. And that's one of the skill sets that you're so good at, is building the rhythm of the team so that you all kind of beat the same drum and row in the same direction. How did you develop that within a team? Because I know you've done some. You did extraordinary work when you were doing that at your former job, and you're still doing that now with a team of pole dancers and camera crew and all that. Oh, thank you. Yeah, love. I love working with people, I really do. I love, I love brainstorming, and one of the things I love about working in entertainment, the piece was always working with people who were experts at different things and understanding what they knew and what we were going to build.


Kimberly Spencer (00:42:47) - And then, you know, guess you hear the same things you kind of get asking them, this is what we're building. What do you think? And then and yes, and, and so taking each department and then building on to that because. Different teams and different departments are experts at something. And I really love that diversity of ideas from all, all people. Like what have they seen in the past and what they think could make this scene or this project better or run smoother and and then pulling on that, it's a lot of asking questions. And then, you know, there's always that management part of getting deadlines. That's hard. But I think it's I like the challenge of realizing that everyone's schedule is going to be a little different and how they have to hear something and they have to hear feedback is different. And respecting that and then trying to figure out how to communicate with people. I like that challenge. And how would you communicate with your team? What are some of your best practices for how to communicate with a team that you're developing? I think it's so important for everyone to feel included that all ideas are good ideas, or there's something to be tossed out, and then feel that everyone's running in the same direction.


Kimberly Spencer (00:44:08) - This is the thing that we're building. This is what we're doing today. This is what we're shooting today. This is, you know, this is what needs to get done. What do you think? What does this schedule work for you? Should we think about different angles or a different way to shoot it? Or you know what else needs to be done to this project to get it done on time? I like to keep the communication channels open, I think. So, keeping things friendly and keeping teams engaged and feeling like I'm making sure people feel like they're part of the team is important. What did you find were the factors for engagement? How did you get engaged? Because I mean, especially corporate like 86% of the corporate workforce is like disengaged, studies show. So how did you get your team members to engage at a higher level? And how are you doing that? So I don't know. I think I'm a goof actually. Anything I do and I have no problem being the goofball and being the person who's silly and just, you know, sharing a silly story or a meme or, I don't know, people.


Kimberly Spencer (00:45:24) - So it's so fun if you're serious all the time, you know, I think it's important for people to feel comfortable and to so I do I don't mind being the goofball. You know, I think that that is such a testament like, and a skill set that, that so many teams actually could use. It's one of laughter and fun is like, fun is one of the 15 commitments of conscious leadership. And that commitment to creating fun and dropping a meme, dropping a funny story, being able to laugh. It is a game changer when you stop taking business so seriously. Like, I took business very, very, very, very seriously for the first couple of years as I was growing my coaching business because I was a new mom and thought everything had to be serious and, you know, otherwise someone was going to die a baby. And I was great. And then when I realized, okay, no, that's not the case, and started inviting more fun and having more play became so much more successful and just so much more fulfilled.


Kimberly Spencer (00:46:27) - Being able to have those laughs and have that goofball. So, I mean, it sounds like that's a skill set, Joanne, that you have that is, is so naturally you that. It just is who you are. But it's actually a testimony to how you lead teams so well you bring in the fun and thus people want to be on the fun team. They want to be in a place where they are feeling appreciated. And they're also it's an exciting place to work. I hope so, I hope so, because, you know, what we do is hard and, you know, keeping track of details or building things. It's not easy. And problem solving is not easy. Coming up with new ideas not not easy, but it's important to have fun or try to have fun at the end of the day. Yeah, to try to bring in the fun. And how are we bringing in the fun to your new business? Oh. I mean, how can you not have fun? I just, I just found a burlesque choreography.


Kimberly Spencer (00:47:40) - And I think about that teacher every single day. And anytime she would kind of lose her train of thought, she would just go like and shimmy. And so I still laugh at that because, um. Yeah, you know what? I may not always get every word right or something, but at the end of the day, just shimmy. It's okay. And she had so much fun. I have fun every day. I'm filming with these instructors. They're just oh so such great artists. And. It's just fun. It's. It's every day is fun. Oh, I love it. Joanne and I have loved this interview and getting to see your face again and hear about all your success with all the shoots that you're doing and the platform. Are you ready to enter into some rapid fire? Oh, sure. I don't know. What is your favorite female character in a book or a movie and why? Oh, um, so she's Colette's, an author who wrote at the turn of the century, and she had this quote that you will do foolish things, but do them with enthusiasm.


Kimberly Spencer (00:48:56) - And I always think that's a great thing to just keep in mind. Oh, I love that quote. Love. That is so phenomenal. Yes. Because basically, the archetype of the fool, you're throwing yourself off a cliff and you're not quite sure what exactly you're doing that you trust that you're. And if you have to figure it out on the way down, and you might as well get it down in the view. Exactly. Yeah. She lived that way and she joined the circus. So how can she not be a role model? Amazing. I have to investigate this Wolfman now like you are, that you were the first person to bring her up to me, and almost on over 200 podcast episodes that we've done, so. Oh, I'm so excited. Um, what woman would you want to trade places with for a day alive, or when she was alive and her time in history? See what she saw, hear what she heard, and feel what it felt to be her.


Kimberly Spencer (00:49:54) - Um, if I could, if I could be a switch places with with anyone, I think I would have to say my great grandmother. And just because she came, I don't know. The story that I know is that she came from Europe. And then she lived and moved to a sod house in South Dakota. And there is something about what that experience must have been like that just curious. I don't know much about her, and that must have been a pretty crazy story. And I would just like to go to meet her for a day. Yeah. And so she lived in a in a sod house. Yeah. Yeah. There's actually a plateau in South Dakota named after her family, and she was fine because she came from a lot of money. And then she moved to the sod hut and everything was going well, and she had lots of kids. But then there was a stampede, and the cow ran away. And then she's like, okay, we're moving out. And so, you know, I'm sure this happened and I'm sure it was a crazy life, but I would love to meet someone who was like, oh, let's, let's move away from nice, Europe and North Dakota and live in a hut.


Kimberly Spencer (00:51:04) - I would love to meet someone who made that decision. That's a that's definitely pioneering decision for sure. Yes. What is your morning routine like now? Well, I do like to wake up and I've realized that fitness is so important. So I wake up pretty early. I'm 630 and I always go to the gym and I either going to go to swimming or spin class, and then I come back and then eat breakfast and start my day. But my day is never complete without doing something active in the morning. I feel like that one says that. What is your evening routine to set you up to wake up so early? I usually fall asleep on the couch and find ten. I'm not that interested. And past nine. You're better off. We're better off connecting in the morning. Yeah. So what do you define to be your kingdom?


Joanne Getson (00:52:13) - I have this very.


Kimberly Spencer (00:52:15) - Nice little home office. That's my kingdom and I have all my toys. It's on my desk. So I buy my the toys own little tchotchkes that I've collected over time.


Kimberly Spencer (00:52:26) - So I look at them and then right behind me, I have a larger space that some, you know, I have, have actually had a pole in my house, and that's my kingdom. Like, this place defines me where I work. And then the fact that I can dance at any, any moment, that's that's authentically who I am.


Joanne Getson (00:52:48) - And I want art.


Kimberly Spencer (00:52:49) - And lots of art on the wall. That's what makes me happy. Yeah. That's what's so beautiful. Because I don't see any production offices offering a pole, and there's nothing to say about that. They should, they should. Last but not least, how do you crown yourself? Um.


Joanne Getson (00:53:12) - I think I.


Kimberly Spencer (00:53:13) - Crowned me when I realized that I too can do this. And if I take a moment to realize what. What I've learned, what I've developed, and what I'm building now, and just being really respectful and understanding. I'm a I'm a journey in progress. I'm a story-in-progress tale. And I think respecting that and appreciating that is, is how I crown myself.


Kimberly Spencer (00:53:43) - So, Anne, I am so honored you did so amazing on your first podcast interview. It's almost like you've done this before. Uh, well, how can we find you? How do we work with you? If we have a local studio and would like to build out an online presence? Oh, sure. So I have a website. It's my name, Joanne Dash Getson. So it's j o a and e dash get s o and you can find me on there. And there are ways to get in touch. And then I hope everyone checks out this website that I'm building. So I'm working with Pole Fitness Studio in Las Vegas. And the website that's going to be up and running is full fitness, and everything is going to launch on October 15th. So the new website, the video on demand, and the streaming classes are all going to happen that week. So hope everybody checks it out and shimmies. Well, that sounds like so much fun because now I have a pole. Finally, my pole has its final resting place which just happens to be in my children's homeschooling room.


Kimberly Spencer (00:54:52) - Yes. They loved climbing it. I'm sure they do. Mean kids would love this thing. So it has been such a pleasure having you on everyone. I encourage you to go check out Joanne's website and what she is building with Pole Fitness online. It is truly extraordinary to see how you take one skill set from being an expert in TV and transfer that into some kick-ass pole videos and training that you get to take. So crown yourself with the opportunity to enjoy these pole videos and these amazing instructors that Joanne is working with. As always, remember to own your throne. Mind your business because your reign is now.


Kimberly Spencer (00:55:44) - Thank you so much for tuning in today. If what you heard resonated with you, be sure to subscribe and start creating a bigger impact now by sharing this with a friend. Just by doing that, one simple act of kindness, you are creating a royal ripple to support more people in their sovereignty. And if you're not already following on social media, connect with me everywhere at Crown Yourself Now for more inspiration.


Kimberly Spencer (00:56:06) - I am so excited to connect with you in the next episode, and in the meantime, go out there and create a body, business, and life that rules because today you crown yourself.

The Crown Yourself Podcast is a fast-growing self-improvement podcast, ranked in the top #200 personal-development podcasts in two countries, so far,  out of 4.5 million podcasts. Each week, you get the conscious leadership strategies you need to help you reign with courage, clarity and confidence, so that you too can make the income and impact you deserve. Imagine this podcast as your royal invitation to step into your full potential and reign in your divine purpose. To listen any of the past episodes for free, check out this page.


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